Host  0:35  Introduction

One of the main controversies surrounding your candidacy is your stance on childhood vaccines, nearly every scientific and medical organization, including the CDC, the FDA, the AMA, the American Academy of Pediatrics, all say you're wrong on this issue. This leads us to our very first question from our audience. It's Dr Tariq, but who specializes? I

RFK JR  0:57  The discussion

would ask you one thing on what issue

Host  1:00  

on childhood vaccines, what about them, and whether they ever cause autism or damaged kids? They all say these vaccines are damaged kids. I don't think anybody has said they never have. There might be a child here, but overall, all those organizations say vaccines are safe and have saved millions and millions of lives. Let's get to our audience. Question from Dr Butts.

Dr Butts  1:25  

Good evening. Eradication of chicken pox and polio from the US and many parts of the world is a direct result of regular vaccines, measles, mumps, rubella and many diseases are preventable, and there's little to no evidence of these diseases in vaccinated properly, your vaccine stance is dangerous to the health and well being of millions medical experts are deeply concerned about your message. How can we help you to come to the side of science?

RFK JR  1:54  

You know, I think most people don't know my stance on vaccines. 

I've never been against  any vaccine, and I've said that hundreds and hundreds of times, but it doesn't matter, because that is a way of silencing, using that pejorative to disrupt his way of silencing or marginalizing me. 

My position on vaccines, I think, is, I think, of all, virtually every American would agree with my stance on vaccines, which is that vaccine should be tested, like other medicines, they should be safety tested. And unfortunately, the vaccines are not safety tested. They're not there's of the 72 vaccine doses now mandated, essentially mandated. They're recommended, but they're really mandated for American children. 

None of them, not one, has ever been subject to a pre licensing placebo-controlled trial. Okay, let me just say something. Dr Fauci and many other people for many years said this Bobby Kennedy when he says that is wrong. So I met with Dr Fauci in 2016 you know, I agreed to Trump's Vaccine Safety Commission, and I was with Aaron Siri and Lynn redwood and a number of other people, and we said to him, 

Can you show us one test from anybody licensing safety test? And he said, I'll send it to you. I can't find one now. He never did. 

So we sued him, we sued Aaron, I sued HHS, and after a year of litigation and stonewalling, they said that they could not provide a single safety study for any vaccine that is on the childhood schedule, pre licensing safety study. 

Oh, anybody who wants to read that can go to my web, to the Children's Health defense website, and you can read 

HHS admission that not a single one has ever been safety tested pre licensing. Now, what I've said is other medicines are required to do that, and we should have to do that for vaccines. 

If I'm wrong, show me the test. Show me the study. You won't be able to because there are none. That means that we don't know what the long term risks are? 

The risk profile of those products, and I'll give you, you and me, you mentioned chicken pox. Oh, when? When CDC was thinking of recommending this chicken pox vaccine as mandating with your children? The they did a study, and the scientists they hired to do that study was a scientist called Gary Goldman, a contract scientist. 

And he did this study an isolated place in California called Antelope Valley, a long term study. And what they find is, if you give the chicken pox vaccine mass vaccinate with chicken pox, it stops chicken pox, but it causes shingles epidemics later on, which are 20 times as deadly as chicken pox. 

Nevertheless, despite those studies, we mandate it for American children in this country, 

In Europe, they don't. If you go to the British National Health Service website right now, you can read on that where they'd say, We do not recommend chicken pox vaccines because it causes shingles epidemics later on. And that's the problem you can't just look at, you know. You can say that this product is going to prevent this particular disease, but you have to look at the long term impact vaccines, like other medicines, have injuries that have long term, long diagnostic horizons and long intubation pieces. If you do not do long term studies on placebo control, studies comparing vaccinated populations unvaccinated populations, you won't do it. 

Let me just give you one quick other example. The most popular vaccine in the world is the DTP vaccine, diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. We we bad. We got rid of it in this country because it was causing injuries, brain injury, severe brain injury, or death to one in every 300 we used it in the 80s, and that's why there was all this litigation against vaccine companies that precipitated depositors the vaccine act that then gave them immunity from liability. 

But in Europe, they don't use it. In America, they don't use it, but we give it to 161 million African children a year. 

Bill Gates asked the Danish government to support that program and said it saved 30 million lives. 

This government said, Show us the data. He wasn't able to, so they went to Africa and did their own studies, and they looked at 30 years of DTP data, and what they found shocked them all. 

They found that girls who got the DTP were dying at 10 times the rate of unvaccinated girls, but they were dying of things that nobody had ever associated with the vaccine. They were dying of tip thereof, of anemia, malaria, Bill heartsia, pulmonary disease, respiratory disease and pneumonia. 

And nobody noticed for 30 years that it was the vaccinated girls and not the unvaccinated girls were dying, and what had happened is these girls were not dying of diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. The vaccine protected them against their immune systems, and they were able to defend themselves against other just minor diseases that were that other kids who had heart immune systems were able to fend off. So that's why you need these long term studies, and that's why I'm worried that we don't do that here in the United States,

Dr Butts  7:48  

and we do have evidence of that, like there are clinical trials, randomized trial, and there's a difference between Association and causation, right? Somebody can take a medication and get involved in a motor vehicle accident. It doesn't mean that you know that that is associated, but it was not caused medication, unless we get to the bottom of it. So many times, we should continue to figure out ways to, you know, for the safety of vaccines. Of course, and medical community is already looking for that. But at the same time, you know, we can really come to agreement that vaccines are important. They do prevent those diseases. After all, you know, smallpox was in the world, all around the world, it's not there anymore, so there is evidence of that. 

RFK JR  8:33  

You know, when we pass a vaccine, when I was a kid, there was only three vaccines, and I was compliant. But when we passed the vaccine act, it may very, very and all of a sudden there was a gold rush to add a lot of new vaccines to schedule for diseases that aren't even Coronavirus, hepatitis B. Why are we giving hepatitis B vaccine to a one day old child? Hepatitis B, the major factors for that are sexually transmitted or by needles. Why would you give that to a one day old child? It's really a profit motive. Now you're right, that causation, but the Institute of Medicine has looked at the vaccine schedule and said in their 2011 report, there are over 150 injuries that are likely to be associated with vaccines that have never been studied. 

So it's the CDC responsibility to do those studies, and they've been ordered again and again and again to do them, and they have refused. 

And that's wrong. We need an agency that is putting public health first and not pharmaceutical profits. You were talking about the about the opioid crisis. The opioid crisis, you know, started with the oxycodone. Now it's, you know, fentanyl, but the company, the same companies that got the FDA to lie to us about the addiction addictiveness, lie to every doctor in this country about the addictiveness of oxycodone and get a whole generation addicted. 

Those are the same companies that make these, you know, other products and the pharmaceutical the four companies that make vaccines in this country, Merck Sanofi, Glaxo and Pfizer, billion dollars over the past decade for lying to doctors, for falsifying science, for defrauding regulators. And we need, you know, we need to keep an eye on them. 

We can't just trust them if they say it's a vaccine, you know, we all trust it. We need to have actual science on it. That's all I say.  I don't want to get rid of that. 

If you want to take a vaccine, you should be able to do it. We need good science. And that's all I've asked for.

Host  10:59  

What do you say to people? I mean, it sounds like you're saying that every scientist, every government, our government, governments around the world, doctors like Dr butts are all loved. That AMA, the a the American Academy pediatrics, they all and the FDA says, and in fact, on its website, you can clearly see vaccines are they go through three stages of FDA testing against double blind placebos. They already do that testing.

RFK JR  11:32  

Elizabeth, you you can say that,

is not saying that they do on their website. They will not tell you that there's any vaccine that has ever undergone a long term placebo controlled trial prior license, or they have, will not, because that's not true and they've, you know, you can go to my website to see where HHS says, yeah, there are none. 

I'm not saying the AMA is lying where the doctors don't lie.

What I'm saying is the FDA does lie. And the FDA lied to us about Vioxx. They knew that the Vioxx was causing heart attacks, but they let, they let doctors believe that it was a medicine that was that was good, beneficial for headaches and arthritis, without telling it that they were going to kill me, and they ended up killing between 120,000

Host  12:31  

500,000 these doctors and all these scientists around the world who say vaccines are safe and have saved millions of lives,

RFK JR  12:38  

I actually say the same people said opioid that oxycodone was not addictive because FDA said it, and they believe them. And that's the problem. We have a corrupt federal agency that's lying to the AMA, to, you know, to all of those agencies and all of the doctors, and they believe them, 

But those agencies are controlled by Pharma. That is the problem, and that's what I'm trying to end as president.

Host  13:06  

You know that your own family doesn't support many members of your own family don't support your position on vaccines. Your brother, your sister and your niece have all written an editorial saying on vaccines, Bobby is wrong. His work on vaccines is having heartbreaking consequences. What's your response your own family thinks you're wrong, I finished

RFK JR  13:24  

your family, agree with everything that you said, definitely not.

Host  13:29  

You got me on that one.

Thank you for watching. 

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